Sermons and Fellowship About God’s Word “Christ Does the Work of Judgment With the Truth” (III)
Questions & Answers
Question 1: I don’t quite understand what is judging God and judging the man used by the Holy Spirit. Sometimes, I don’t quite comprehend some of God’s words or the brother’s sermons, yet I do not dare speak out because if I do, I’m afraid that it would be considered judgment. Brother, please fellowship about this matter.
Answer: Judging God means having all kinds of notions about God’s work, God’s flesh or passing judgment on these things intentionally. This is called judging God. Judging the man used by the Holy Spirit, this judgment is focused on the man. What are some of the key manifestations of judgment that is focused on the man? One is, “This is all the work of man, I do not see any signs that it is the Holy Spirit’s work, I do not see any signs that it is from God.” This is the most severe judgment. There are also people that find fault with me, “This person is not very special, he is not much better than us.” This is also a kind of judgment. There is also another kind of judgment, it is the most revealing judgment, “God said, man has impurities, so the man used by the Holy Spirit also definitely has impurities. That is why we cannot obey the man, we can only obey God.” This is a clear example, we don’t need to talk about the unclear examples, you can investigate this yourself. Judging God means that you have all sorts of notions about God and His work, and because of this you produce a certain kind of viewpoint; this is called judging God. Judging the man means having all kinds of suspicions about this man or picking him up on something, passing judgment on it and refusing to obey. Some of this judgment is due to being unconvinced by this man, or out of jealousy. “How come you have become a person that the Holy Spirit uses, why can’t I become this kind of person? Why does God use you? We are the same as you. Why does God use you? Why does He not use me?” The 250 leaders that judged Moses were the same. What did they say when they judged Moses? “Has God spoken only to Moses and not to us? Moses is not the same as us? Why does God use Moses but He does not use us?” This is what they meant. Jealousy rots your moral character, you must not be jealous. Isn’t corrupt humanity full of jealousy? Jealousy is terrible. If you have even a bit of jealousy, do not judge. Take your time and seek the truth; once your corrupt disposition has been cleansed, you will no longer be jealous. Whoever is good, we will admire, praise and learn from. How great is this! Legitimacy sets the heart free. Man has a corrupt disposition. If he has not experienced judgment, when his jealous heart grows and he becomes jealous of someone, this is not good. The jealousy of man is not good. Some people have not come in contact with me before. They have their suspicions, “Why should I obey you? Have you been to some kind of prestigious university? Do you come from a noble family? Did you graduate from an elite school? Do you have an illustrious background? Is your physical appearance notable? If you are any of these things, then I would obey. If you are none of these things, then you are too ordinary and I will not obey!” Are these words correct? They are incorrect, this is jealousy. What does ordinary mean? Now, the past generations of people that God used, the majority of them came from ordinary families, many of them, right? God prearranged this, God had selected them. He arranged their family background, all of it was arranged by God. Look at the place where the Lord Jesus was born, that was even more pitiful. What kind of place was He born in? He was born in a manger. Wouldn’t you say this is pitiful? From man’s perspective, this is extremely pitiful. How can You be king if You were born in such a place? How could You be the Savior? This is where God’s work does not accord with man’s conception! That is why when God became flesh, when people see what family, address, environment and background He originated from, they say, “How wretched! How ordinary!” They have their notions, they do not acknowledge this. “What kind of king is this? Is this the Savior?” However, in reality, this is how God did things, this is what God chose. That is why when God did these great things, it is extremely incongruent with man’s notions. It was specifically counterintuitive to man’s notions. If you have all sorts of misunderstandings about God, or if you rely on your imagination when it comes to God, in the end, you will be put to shame.
Question 2: I have trouble distinguishing between discernment of other people and being overly-critical of others. When I see that the brothers and sisters that are working with me have a corrupt disposition, it makes me not want to come close to them. When I say something, I need to pay attention to whether or not I am respecting the other party. When I coordinate with them, it is very easy to be constrained by the other party. It is especially stifling to live with these kinds of people. It makes me unwilling to obey God’s arrangements, I want to escape. I do not know how to experience God’s judgment and chastisement in this kind of environment. I do not know how to truly understand myself and enter into the truth.
Answer: This kind of question is very practical. The majority of people will encounter this. It’s great that you brought this up. Presently, when we serve God in coordination, sometimes, we will encounter these kinds of people. What kind of lessons can we learn when encountering these kinds of people? It is not correct if we do not respect the other party and it is even more incorrect if we look down on them. If we despise them this is also a corrupt disposition. Or, if we are restrained by the other party and adapt to their dispositions, this is not in accordance with our principles. When you work together with someone, if the other party does not conform to your intentions and you can’t coordinate, isn’t there something here that needs to be learned? What should be learned? One thing is to understand yourself. When you do things, are you principled? When you deal with the other party, do you show them love and respect? Another thing is to gain discernment. Does the other party do things according to the truth? Can this person fulfill his or her duties properly? Is this a correct person? If this person is correct, then we should learn lessons from them, learn how to respect them and it is fine. If they are not a correct person, if they delay the work and cause you to be unable to coordinate with them, and when you do things according to principle you still cannot successfully coordinate with them, then this issue should be put forward. If you are afraid that work might be delayed, then you need to mention this to a leader, “This person will not do, when they do work, they do not accept the truth.” One aspect is to solve your own problems; another aspect is seeing whether or not the other party is a correct person. If they are an incorrect person and they are disrupting or disturbing, then this needs to be resolved, reported and brought to light. Is this kind of implementation good? How to understand yourself and how to properly enter, this doesn’t need to be discussed in detail, right? For example, if you do not treat the opposite party with respect, a loving heart, tolerance or forbearance, let’s not mention the other party’s shortcomings, now, from this perspective, do you have deficiencies? If you have these deficiencies, do you know how to equip the truth and enter? Do you know how to follow principles when dealing with other people? You should seek the truth. Once you have sought out an understanding of the truth in this aspect and you know how to do things according to principles, then you should deal with other people according to principles. You must have a pathway to enter. On the one hand, you should understand yourself and have true repentance. On the other hand, if the other party is not a good person, then you need to bring this to light and report it. If the other party only has some corruption that is revealed, then you need to learn how to be tolerant and patient. Additionally, it is best to have a positive attitude of providing assistance and supply, helping your brother or sister cast aside corruption. Isn’t this a win-win situation?
Question 3: What is the difference between releasing negativity and pointing out blind and impractical plans? Here is an example. There is some work that requires three days to complete. Everybody enthusiastically says, “With the Holy Spirit working with us, everybody can actively cooperate and finish it in one day.” At this time, if there is someone who says, “Let’s be practical. Based on our regular pace of work, if we can finish this on time, then this is already considered fast.” The person who says this encounters this response, “You are releasing dead negativity!” I’m not sure how releasing negativity should be weighed. Please, communicate about this.
Answer: The things that people who do not have the reality of the truth say are not accurate. When it comes to work that takes three days to complete, they say, “With the Holy Spirit’s work, we can actively cooperate and finish in one day.” What are you basing these words on? If you are making a prediction, that is fine, you think it can be done in a day. If you are not making a prediction, then you should say something that is practical, “If we actively cooperate together, perhaps we can finish ahead of schedule.” That’s fine. But you say, “We can finish in one day.” What if you do not finish in one day? Objectively, it takes two days to finish. How would you explain this? That is why, if you say this, it is not accurate. If at this time someone says, “Let’s be practical. Based on our regular pace of work, if we can finish on time, then this is already considered fast.” These words are more realistic! Someone says something that is realistic, and in the end, what kind of response do they get? “You are releasing dead negativity!” This is releasing dead negativity? This is called objective and realistic. This is not releasing dead negativity. So, what is releasing dead negativity? Disseminating misconceptions, with the result that people lose faith, or disseminating words that confuse people and baffle their heart, preventing people from putting the truth into practice or obeying the truth, these things can be labelled as releasing dead negativity. Additionally, if someone speaks of the most negative words, words of complaint about God, and words of disbelief about God, and once everyone hears these words, it is as if the air has been sucked out of the room. Everyone’s spirit gets dampened. This is called disseminating dead negativity. Whether or not it is disseminating dead negativity is determined based on the results that can be achieved? The work that evil spirits do and the words that evil people speak, cause people to stray further and further from God and make their spirit more and more negative and depressed. When a person with the work of the Holy Spirit speaks, it is practical and objective. When people hear it, they have a path, feel it is real, and they are filled with energy. That is why when it comes to this topic, it is based on the result. Consider these words, “With the Holy Spirit working with us, everybody can actively cooperate and finish it in one day.” Saying so seemed to make people have energy. However, someone with experience said, “This cannot be done in a day. It will be good enough if it takes two days.” This is objective and realistic. When the person said that it could be done in a day, is this a prediction or an understanding from experience? Has he done this task many times so that he is confident that he can complete it in a day? If this was actually the case, if he said this, it is not big talk. If he did the task and it took two or three days to finish, then those words he said are not objective or realistic. They are words of bragging and lies, even though externally, it seems like he was encouraging people to be enthusiastic. Externally, it did not cause people to experience dead negativity. Now, talking big, is this correct? Is this kind of person realistic? He is not realistic and he told a lie, he spoke empty words. This kind of person is not like those who disseminate dead negativity. With one sentence, they cause others to become negative and lose their strength and energy. With one sentence, they cause others to completely lose faith, collapse and stop working. Even though the results are not the same, but still, it is not appropriate. If you disseminate dead negativity, you are disturbing others. If you talk big and in the end the result is not achieved, others will sneer at and ridicule you; this is also not something that is positive, right? These two kinds of people both do not have the reality of the truth. One kind of person is enthusiastic and passionate. He blindly brags and tells lies. The other kind of person does not have faith, is deceptive and lazy. Once someone else speaks dead words or disseminates fallacies, then they are negative and have no more energy. Both of these circumstances are extreme situations, they are wrong and they are unacceptable. Now, you can see here that with the enthusiastic person, when someone said something accurate and objective, he criticized them, “You are releasing dead negativity!” Is his criticism correct? If he said, “If I said it only takes a day then it only takes a day to complete. This time, someone delayed us. Before, this task only took a day to complete.” If this is truly the case, is what he said correct? If this is truly the case, then it is correct. If this prediction is not accurate, if the task takes more than one day to complete and he still has to say these things, then this is saying things based on enthusiasm and imagination, it has no basis. The result is that it is still a lie and it cannot be actualized. This kind of person’s character is not mature. If there was someone at his side who was a little more mature, and had more of an understanding when it came to that particular type of work, if they said something that is objective and realistic, should he criticize them, saying, “This is releasing dead negativity”? This criticism is incorrect. That person is not pouring cold water on the situation, they are being objective and realistic. For example, someone who spreads the gospel said, “We must all cooperate urgently and make every effort to obtain 1,000 people in one month. Let the Holy Spirit work!” The result is, in one month, they were not even able to obtain 100 people. What kind of problem is this? Isn’t this blindly bragging and telling lies? Someone with experience would say, “If we can obtain 100 people in 1 month, that would not be bad.” These words are realistic. “Since at most we can get 80-90 people in 1 month, obtaining 100 people is already not bad.” Are these words realistic? However, what kind of criticism does the person who brags apply to the person who is realistic? “Releasing negativity.” Now, exactly who is detestable? The person who says arrogant and false things and when someone does not agree with his points, he criticizes them: “Disseminating dead negativity.” This kind of person is very detestable, judgmental, arrogant and unreasonable. Now, do you find it easier to distinguish? It should be easier to distinguish.
Question 4: It is said in the work arrangements that the work of exposing and dismissing false leaders, expelling antichrists and evil people never stops. However, it is unclear to me the difference between exposing and pointing out the deficiencies of leaders and workers in normal circumstances and attacking leaders and workers. Brother, can you please fellowship about this?
Answer: When you expose workers and leaders, if someone reveals some corruption and you expose them, this is not correct. Which person does not have corruption to reveal? You must do things with principles. If someone truly is doing things that disrupt and disturb work, or if he is a false leader who does not have the Holy Spirit’s work, or if he is a person who is not right, exposing him is fine. If, in normal circumstances, some of what he says and does is correct and is in accordance with the truth, and occasionally he reveals corruption, in this case, you should not expose him like he is a false leader, nobody is perfect. So under what circumstances can you expose someone? If someone is disrupting and disturbing the work of God’s family and betraying principles, you should expose it. Let’s say, he does not have the Holy Spirit’s work. If he leads the church for long, he will delay the church, then you should expose it. If someone does not have humanity, he does not do good things, he is a very corrupt influence and the other leaders cover up his behavior, you should expose it. When you expose someone, it must be of benefit to the work of God’s family. If you are nitpicky about finding faults and pick out someone’s insignificant faults when they are revealing their corruption, is that meaningful? You must do things according to principles. What does doing things according to principles mean? If someone is doing work well, why are you picking at them? Who does not have some faults? Let’s say someone solves ten problems. Is it normal that one of the problems is not solved completely? You must be fair when you treat and evaluate a person, right? What does it mean to judge and attack someone? When someone is doing something very well, you find a little weakness, you seize that weakness and criticize that person. You treat that person like a false leader and you deal with him and dismiss him as such. Do you have principles? Are you doing things in accordance with God’s intentions? What is exposure referring to? Someone is unable to do his work. This is a false leader. This person does not love the truth and only does outward things. This person does not treat others fairly. He does things based on emotion. That is, he has a significant and clear problem. Once this problem is exposed, it is worth it to dismiss and replace him, it is worth it to think it over. If other people do not know this kind of thing but you know, you need to expose it. For example, one leader or worker secretly has an affair with someone else. Should this be exposed? Or, a leader or worker suppresses and convicts a good person. Should this be exposed? Another example is this person cultivates and promotes an evil person. Should this be exposed? Or, in meetings, this person does not communicate the truth or talk about practical experiences. He always uses theoretical reasoning to confuse people. Should this be exposed? When it comes to these significant problems, it is a good thing if you expose it. When it comes to trivial matters, such as when someone speaks and it is not in accordance with the truth, when someone makes a few incorrect arguments or if what someone says is not accurate, this is normal! Before someone has been perfected, they will make a lot of these kinds of mistakes! If you want to find fault with my words, you can also find it. Sometimes, I will make some small mistakes. Sometimes, I want to say something like this, but the result is my mouth just runs off and I end up saying something else. Sometimes, when I say something, it is not totally in accordance with what you understand. Perhaps the things in my heart that I want to communicate to you have not been communicated completely so the result is that you do not understand. So, when we speak, are there times when there are misunderstandings? Is this a shortcoming? Is this a revelation of corruption? This is not a revelation of corruption. This is a normal person’s flaw. Now, what is a revelation of corruption? Contamination of human will, relying on man’s notions and imagination to work, deliberately quoting some words in order to change the focus and achieve one’s own goal, having one’s own intentions when doing something or speaking for a certain person with the intention of promoting this person, these are revelations of corruption. Disrupting God’s work, betraying the truth and principles, these are also revelations of corruption. A specific revelation of a contamination of human will, betraying truth and principles, these are revelations of corruption. Sometimes the slightest contamination of human will is having good intentions. If good intentions do not bring any negative results, it is okay, and it does not need to be included in the category of revealed corruption. Sometimes, when people communicate about God’s work, they completely rely on their notions and imagination and it is not in accordance with the actual facts. This misleads people and causes people to misunderstand God. This is resisting. Can you distinguish these kinds of situations? If you do not know how to distinguish these people, then you do not know how to deal with leaders and workers. In some situations, people do not reveal corruption, in others they do. However, when it comes to revelations of corruption, there are different characteristics, there are differences. There are a few kinds of revelations of corruption. Additionally, revelations of corruption and manifestations of evil people are not the same. Serious transgressions and the actual doing of evil are different. These situations also need to be distinguished, they need to be divided up. You cannot groundlessly criticize, understood?