Did you go back and listen again to the last couple times of fellowship? (Yes.) After listening to it, what’s your current feeling? Do you have a deeper understanding? (Yes.) Has there been any growth from a month ago? Wasn’t the content of the last couple times of fellowship fresh for you? (It was.) Has there been any transformation in your pursuit in your belief in God? Has it changed your method of pursuing the truth? (It has changed.) What all has it changed? (After hearing God’s sermons I discovered that in the past, what I had believed in was the God of my own notions and I didn’t have a deeper understanding of God. Now I feel I’m one step closer to God and that I understand His disposition a little more deeply. So, now I have a goal and a direction for my seeking and more motivation to press onward, to seek to go up.) It feels more practical, right? (Yes.) (After listening to God’s fellowship, I truly felt that my understanding of God was different from the past. Before I could just say a bit and I knew a bit about God’s almightiness and wisdom, or about what He has and is. But after these few times of listening to God’s fellowship, I recognized that everything that God does has a precise plan and arrangement, that every single thing He does has significance, and His own thoughts are in all of them. Through these times in fellowship, I really felt that what I believed in before truly was a vague God, not the true God Himself. After listening these few times, the feeling it has given me is that God is truly alive and vivid. And what God shared in fellowship were all things that allow us to directly understand Him. These are things that haven’t been easy to receive through reading God’s words in the past. Particularly these few times, God has integrated the Bible to have fellowship with us, I’ve seen that His will is within everything He does, including that God has had this kind of management plan from the creation of the world up until now, that people like Job are the group of people that God wants to gain, and that from the creation of the world God had planned and been determined in His will to gain a group of people who are of one accord with Him. When I felt that God had times of sadness and pain, and times of loneliness, I felt even more that He truly hopes to gain this group of people who can be of one accord with Him. At that time I had a sort of indebtedness in my heart, but at the same time I felt that God is more than worth people getting to know, and more than worth being treasured. And people should have the aspirations to become someone who knows God so that He has a few confidants on earth who can be of one accord with Him. These were my understandings and feelings after listening to the last few times of fellowship, and then after us having fellowship together again. I personally also have some of these kinds of aspirations and views.) Very good—there’s been change. (After listening to God’s fellowship, when these couple of times Adam and Eve, the story of Noah, and Abraham and Job from the Bible were discussed, I felt that I had more understanding of God’s disposition. And the relationship between God and man was also talked about, and that in fact God treats us human beings like family. And Job in particular was mentioned, that he was able to fear God and shun evil, treat God as a confidant, and seek with no motives. In the last fellowship people’s attitude toward God in the last days was talked about, and that people are God’s enemies. It made a deep impression on me. Even though I’ve followed all these years and I shouldn’t have requests or demands of God, and I shouldn’t even seek for my own future or destiny, when facts really come upon me, I am still constrained by these things. I am so far off in comparison to Job. Another aspect is seeing that when God does things He has a yardstick. Even though He handed Job over to Satan, He had a yardstick, that is, He didn’t allow Satan to take away Job’s life. Job was given a trial within the scope of what he was able to withstand, and he stood witness for God so that God’s heart could gain comfort. In the course of my own seeking, the phrase “fear God and shun evil” has always felt very remote for me. This is a goal of mine for future seeking. Another aspect is seeing God’s love and what He has expended for mankind through this process—this feeling has deepened and become more realistic from these two times of fellowship. This is a bit of my own understanding.) There has been some progress in the aspect of personal practice. (After listening to a few times of God’s fellowship, I feel that God doesn’t seem as vague as I had imagined before. I feel that God is closer and closer to us. Fearing God and shunning evil is also something that I lack; I want to strive for, and to truly achieve fearing God and shunning evil.) (Only since I heard God’s fellowship have I understood that a lot was slipping by me, and only then did I know that no matter how great the issues are that come upon me every day, it is all arranged by the hand of God. I saw that in the past I was always believing in God in the midst of vagueness and in prayer I was also going through the motions, but after hearing God’s fellowship nowadays, it felt very authentic and the path became very clear. When I encounter the things that I am unable to do and I am unable to perform my duty, when I pray and seek, then God works on me, and it really comes very easily. So now I feel that God truly is so very close to us. In the past I couldn’t get a handle on God’s will, but after listening to God’s fellowship the path is clear, and speaking for myself, I feel that I have more confidence in my faith in God.) Good, everyone has had some growth. Whether it’s the aspect of understanding or the aspect of practice, most people have some new understanding, and some elevated understanding. You have recognized some mistakes in your previous pursuit—it may be superficiality or things that are not in line with God’s will—but what you know less of are things related to God’s disposition, right? This is something that is really difficult for people to strive for. Most only have a bit of emotional understanding. This requires gradual deepening and strengthening through experiences.
No matter what, these two times in fellowship have really touched every single person and have created great change for everyone. This is a great display. So are there some people who feel that through these two times of fellowship they have finally truly discovered the existence of God, and finally truly believe that there is a God? Has there been this kind of change? Over the many years of your path of believing in God, you used to have a certain type of belief in your awareness. Now after fellowship, in your awareness and in your heart, you can feel the existence of God with a clear head—has there been this kind of change? (Yes.) How many people have had this kind of change? Raise your hands. Nearly everyone has raised their hand. So is this kind of change a good thing for you, or is it a bad thing? (It’s good.) If it’s a good thing, then in the past you had faith in God and pursued Him on the foundation of not believing in His existence—can it be put this way? (Yes.) It could be said that the majority of you are unbelievers then. You do not believe in the existence of God or you are holding onto imagination and vagueness in your belief, your faith, your following of God. What kind of belief is this? Isn’t this some sort of blind faith? Seeing you raise your hands—I’m shocked! Because all of you raised your hands. If I didn’t have this kind of fellowship, in fact there had been a very clear answer within every one of your hearts and minds. Many people do not believe in the existence of God because they don’t know where He is, what He is like, and what He’s really all about—can’t it be put this way? (Yes.) So if it can be put this way then what really was your previous belief in God? Could it be said that before it was a muddled belief, a vague belief, a lack of belief? Right? (Right.) That’s a problem. If I hadn’t shared this kind of fellowship, if there hadn’t been these two times of fellowship, then most people would not actually believe, would not know of God’s existence, would not believe in God’s existence, for you have said that only after fellowship have you genuinely believed in the existence of God. Isn’t that the case? It’s not easy to say, right? This matter should be put this way—when people don’t have a true understanding of God, subjectively speaking, in their hearts they believe in the existence of God, but what He is really like, what His will is, what His disposition is like, and what kind of attitude He actually has toward mankind—no one truly understands this. Even if you are face-to-face with God’s words or if you have been face-to-face with Him in your experience, you still do not fully understand Him. You don’t know God’s thoughts, what He loves or what He hates, you don’t know what makes Him angry or joyful. You do not have a true understanding. This kind of faith is built on a foundation of vagueness, imagination, subjective and unilateral belief. It is far off from true belief, from true following. The explanation of these cases, these Bible stories, allows people to know God’s heart, every step of work that He does, what He’s thinking, why He does things this way, what His intention was when doing this, what He was thinking when doing it at the time, what His plan is, and how He did it. Through these kinds of stories, we have understood God’s will, His thoughts, and what kind of attitude He has toward humans, as well as what is in God’s heart, what His attitude is, and what disposition He reveals when He faces every sort of thing. This allows every single person to have a better understanding of God, and feel His realness and genuineness more. The goal of telling these stories is not to have people better understand the Bible, the people and the chapters of the Bible, or the background of God’s work at the time of the Age of Law. The goal isn’t in these things themselves—the goal is to have people understand God’s will, His disposition, and every bit of Him so that they have a more genuine and more accurate knowledge and understanding of God. This makes people’s hearts able to open up to God little by little, to get closer to God. If, after I finish sharing these things in fellowship, there are those who feel that God seems to be farther away from them, then isn’t this a wrong state? Did anyone feel that God seems to have more distance after listening to the fellowship—did you feel some reverence, some fear, some apprehension which then developed into a feeling of a respectful distance toward God? Did anyone have that kind of feeling? (No.) Everyone says they didn’t. Then did anyone feel that after understanding God’s thoughts and understanding many aspects of His disposition, the lofty God in your hearts became smaller? (No.) Did anyone feel that the more you recognized God’s genuineness, His humbleness and hiddenness, and His realness, the more you felt that God doesn’t seem like God. That you can’t feel His almightiness anymore? (No.) Once you heard about, after He created mankind, God’s sorrow, His concern for mankind and even that God sheds tears when He’s sad just like people, that He feels bad when He’s sad and when He’s lonely—when you understood these aspects of what God has and is, did anyone feel that God couldn’t be believed in? That He wasn’t worth believing in? (No.) (Not possible.) Not possible, is it? So are you responding that it’s “Not possible,” or is it that you haven’t given any thought to this at all? (We haven’t thought about it.) It’s not right that you haven’t thought about it. This is something that you must seriously ponder over in your hearts. All of these things are worth pondering. It’s not okay to just not think about it—there are many things that must be considered, and only after you’ve thought them through can you have an accurate, clear, and genuine understanding. Only that is your understanding and the foundation of your faith. Are you clear on this? Although now you’re saying “Not possible,” “No way,” and “No,” there will be one day when some special situation occurs, and you can’t guarantee that at that time you will say “Not possible,” “No way,” or “No.” Isn’t that the case? (Yes.) People with a bit of experience probably all think about this: The truth is, fact and theory or people’s desires are often in conflict. It’s something that people cannot control, and it is contrary to the wishes of people. If you think it’s not there, it doesn’t mean it’s not there. Of course I’m happy to hear you say “Not ever,” and “No”—this is great. But as for whether you really have or not, you’re not clear on this in your hearts, right? You said “Not ever,” or “No” to these questions I just asked you, but you cannot guarantee if there will be a day or a time when you say “Yes.” Isn’t that so? (Yes.) This should be gradually confirmed, gradually learned through experience.
Overall, an understanding of God’s disposition and what He has and is—all this is something that should play a positive role in people. It should make people have more confidence in God, have a deeper and more genuine understanding of Him, have a more realistic knowledge of Him and not blindly go along, blindly follow, nor blindly worship. God does not need that kind of worship. What God needs is people’s genuine reverence and genuine belief for Him, genuine following and genuine obedience toward Him. God doesn’t need blind following and He doesn’t want addle-headed people, or those who go along with the crowd. He wants those who are able to understand God’s disposition in their hearts, as clear as day; He wants those who follow Him and will not forsake Him because of His loveliness, because of what He has and is, and because of their understanding of Him. God wants a group of people like this. If your understanding of God, if His disposition, if what He has and is is still muddled in your heart, or if it is still ambiguous, it remains unclear, it is confused and cloudy, then God will not praise you or like you in His heart as that kind of follower. God does not like that kind of person following Him and He does not like them coming before Him because not only do they not understand God, but their heart is closed to God. They have not given their heart over to Him. Only someone who has genuine understanding and knowledge of God genuinely obeys and reveres Him. That kind of person has given their heart over to God and has opened it up to Him. God can see their heart and can see their sincerity and reverence for God. What they do and think can pass God’s examination and they are able to bear witness for God. That kind of person is one who God wants. Understand? (Yes.) No matter what is shared in fellowship with people, whether it’s about God’s disposition, what He has and is, or His will and what He thinks in everything He does, regardless of which aspect the fellowship is on or from what angle it’s presented, it is all to have people better understand God and be more certain of His genuineness, His love and care for humans as well as His sincere, genuine will in His management and salvation of mankind. Are you clear on this? (Yes.)