Norma Perez, MD, is a senior specialist in child and adolescent psychiatry. She's also a scholar who's been engaged in medical teaching and research for a long time. Over the decades, she has helped many adolescents overcome their psychological struggles. Yet, while helping others, she experienced a series of heavy blows in her own life. She lost her son early in life, her parents passed away in her thirties, and she lost her husband in middle age. These heavy, repeated losses left her living in grief and depression for a long time. Even as a psychiatric expert who understood psychology, medicine, and various treatment methods, she still could not truly break free from her inner pain and depression. She battled depression for decades. Then, her life reached a complete turning point. Not only did she slowly escape the depression that had plagued her for so long, but she also rediscovered true inner peace, joy, and hope. Today, at 81, she remains full of vitality and often has a smile on her face. It is hard to imagine that this optimistic, peaceful elderly woman once lived in depression and pain for so long. What exactly enabled a psychiatrist, long plagued by depression, to finally emerge from its shadow, step by step? This episode of Kingdom Gospel Chat Room brings you Dr. Norma's true and profound life story.

03:12 The Career of a Psychiatrist, MD

07:15 At 21, Losing Her Son Changes Her Career

15:17 Symptoms and Treatments for Depression

30:56 The Passing of Her Husband Engulfs Her in Pain Once More

37:47 Loneliness and Confusion After Retirement

41:33 A Beam of Light Shines Into Her Life

46:39 A New Understanding of Life and Death

54:12 Finally Understanding That Parents Cannot Choose Their Children's Lives for Them

58:06 Anxiety and Peace in a Pagan Environment

01:13:45 7 Insights for Overcoming Depression

01:24:17 Medicine Cannot Truly Resolve Inner Pain

01:45:01 At 81, She Finally Escaped Depression and Regained Peace