4. According to what is written in the Bible, the Lord Jesus is Christ become flesh, He is the Son of God. Yet you testify that the incarnate Christ is the appearance of God, He is God Himself. If the Lord Jesus is God Himself, how can the Lord Jesus pray to His Father when He prays? Is the incarnate Christ the Son of God or God Himself?
Bible Verses for Reference:
“Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by Me. If you had known Me, you should have known My Father also: and from now on you know Him, and have seen Him. Philip said to Him, Lord, show us the Father, and it suffices us. Jesus said to him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet have you not known Me, Philip? He that has seen Me has seen the Father; and how say you then, Show us the Father? Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I speak not of Myself: but the Father that dwells in Me, He does the works. Believe Me that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me: or else believe Me for the very works’ sake” (John 14:6–11).
“I and My Father are one” (John 10:30).
Relevant Words of God:
When Jesus called God in heaven by the name of Father as He prayed, this was done only from the perspective of a created human, only because the Spirit of God had put on an ordinary and normal flesh and had the outer shell of a created being. Even though within Him was the Spirit of God, His exterior appearance was still that of a normal human; in other words, He had become the “Son of man” of which all people, as well as Jesus Himself, spoke. Given that He is called the Son of man, He is a person (whether man or woman, in any case one with the outer shell of a human being) born into a normal family of ordinary people. Therefore, Jesus calling God in heaven by the name of Father was the same as how you at first called Him Father; He did so from the perspective of a created human. Do you still remember the Lord’s Prayer that Jesus taught you to memorize? “Our Father in heaven….” He asked all people to call God in heaven by the name of Father. And since He too called Him Father, He did so from the perspective of one who stands on an equal footing with you all. Since you called God in heaven by the name of Father, Jesus saw Himself to be on equal footing with you, and as a human on earth chosen by God (that is, the Son of God). If you call God Father, is this not because you are created beings? However great the authority of Jesus on earth, prior to the crucifixion, He was merely a Son of man, governed by the Holy Spirit (that is, God), and one of the earth’s created beings, for He had yet to complete His work. Therefore, His calling God in heaven Father was solely His humility and submission. His addressing God (that is, the Spirit in heaven) in such a manner, however, does not prove that He was the Son of the Spirit of God in heaven. Rather, it was simply that His perspective was different, not that He was a different person. The existence of distinct persons is a fallacy! Prior to His crucifixion, Jesus was a Son of man bound by the limitations of the flesh, and He did not fully possess the authority of the Spirit. That is why He could only seek the intentions of God the Father from the perspective of a created being. It is as He thrice prayed in Gethsemane, “Not as I will, but as You will.” Before He was laid on the cross, He was but the King of the Jews, the Son of man, Christ, and not a body of glory. That is why, from the standpoint of a created being, He called God Father. Now, you cannot say that all who call God Father are the Son. If this were so, then would you not have all become the Son once Jesus taught you the Lord’s Prayer? If you are still not convinced, then tell Me, who is the one that you call Father? If you are referring to Jesus, then who is the Father of Jesus to you? After Jesus went away, this idea of the Father and the Son was no more. This idea was only appropriate for the years when Jesus became flesh; under all other circumstances, the relationship is one between the Creator and a created being when you call God Father.
—The Word, Vol. 1. The Appearance and Work of God. Does the Trinity Exist?
There are others who say, “Did not God expressly state that Jesus was His beloved Son?” Jesus is the beloved Son of God, in whom He is well pleased—this was certainly spoken by God Himself. That was God testifying to Himself, but merely from a different perspective, that of the Spirit in heaven testifying to His own incarnated flesh. Jesus is His incarnated flesh, not His Son in heaven. Do you understand? Do not the words of Jesus, “I am in the Father, and the Father in Me,” indicate that They are one Spirit? And is it not because of the incarnation that They were separated between heaven and earth? In reality, They are still one; no matter what, it is simply God testifying to Himself. Owing to the change in ages, the needs of the work, and the differing stages of His management plan, the name by which man calls Him also differs. When He came to carry out the first stage of work, He could only be called Jehovah, who was the shepherd of the Israelites. In the second stage, the incarnate God could only be called Lord, and Christ. But at that time, the Spirit in heaven stated only that He was the beloved Son of God and made no mention of His being the only Son of God. This simply did not happen. How could God have an only child? Then would God not have become man? Because He was the incarnated flesh, He was called the beloved Son of God, and, from this, came the relationship between Father and Son. It was simply because of the separation between heaven and earth. Jesus prayed from the perspective of the flesh. Since He had put on a flesh of such normal humanity, and said from the perspective of the flesh, “My outer shell is that of a created being; since I put on a flesh to come to this earth, I am now a long, long way from heaven,” He could only pray to God the Father from the perspective of the flesh. This was His duty, and it was that which the incarnated flesh of the Spirit of God should be possessed of. It cannot be said that He was not God because He prayed to the Father from the perspective of the flesh. Though He was called the beloved Son of God, He was still God Himself, for He was but the incarnated flesh of the Spirit, and His essence was still the Spirit.
—The Word, Vol. 1. The Appearance and Work of God. Does the Trinity Exist?
The incarnate God is called Christ, and Christ is the flesh clothed by the Spirit of God. This flesh is unlike any man that is of the flesh. This difference is because Christ is the incarnation of the Spirit, rather than being fleshly. He has both a normal humanity and a complete divinity. His divinity is not possessed by any man. His normal humanity is to sustain all His normal activities in the flesh, while His divinity carries out the work of God Himself. Be it His humanity or divinity, both submit to the will of the heavenly Father. The essence of Christ is the Spirit, that is, the divinity. Therefore, His essence is that of God Himself; this essence will not disrupt His own work, and He could not possibly do anything that destroys His own work, nor would He ever utter any words that go against His own will. Thus, the incarnate God would absolutely never do any work that disrupts His own management. This is what all people should understand. The essence of the work of the Holy Spirit is to save man, and is for the sake of God’s own management. Similarly, the work of Christ is also to save man, and is for the sake of God’s will. Given that God becomes flesh, He realizes His essence within His flesh, such that His flesh is sufficient to undertake His work. Therefore, all the work of God’s Spirit is replaced by the work of Christ during the time of incarnation, and at the core of all work throughout the time of incarnation is the work of Christ. It cannot be mixed with work from any other age. And since God becomes flesh, He works in the identity of His flesh; since He comes in the flesh, He then finishes in the flesh the work that He ought to do. Be it the Spirit of God or be it Christ, both are God Himself, and He does the work that He ought to do and performs the ministry that He ought to perform.
—The Word, Vol. 1. The Appearance and Work of God. The Essence of Christ Is Submission to the Will of the Heavenly Father
The incarnate Son of man expressed God’s divinity through His humanity, and conveyed God’s intentions to mankind. And through His expression of God’s intentions and disposition, He also revealed to people the God of the spiritual realm that cannot be seen or touched. What people saw was God Himself, with form and image, and made of flesh and blood. So the incarnate Son of man reified and humanized such things as the identity, status, image, and disposition of God Himself, as well as what He has and is. Even though, in terms of the image of God, the Son of man was subject to certain limitations in His appearance, His essence and what He has and is were entirely able to represent the identity and status of God Himself—there were merely some differences in the form of expression. Whether in His humanity or His divinity, we cannot deny that the Son of man represented the identity and status of God Himself. It’s just that, during this time, God worked through the flesh, spoke from the perspective of the flesh, and faced mankind with the identity and status of the Son of man, giving people the opportunity to come into contact with and experience the practical words and work of God among mankind. It also allowed people insight into His divinity and His greatness in the midst of humility, as well as to gain an initial understanding and definition of the realness and practicality of God. Even though the Lord Jesus’ work, ways of working, and the perspective from which He spoke, differed from those of God’s true form in the spiritual realm, everything about Him represented God Himself with absolute precision, whom mankind had never seen before—this cannot be denied! That is to say, regardless of the manner by which God appears, the perspective from which He speaks, or the image with which He faces mankind, God represents only Himself; He could not possibly represent any individual, nor could He represent any corrupt human. God is God Himself. This cannot be denied.
—The Word, Vol. 2. On Knowing God. God’s Work, God’s Disposition, and God Himself III
What man saw at that time was the Holy Spirit descending like a dove upon Jesus; it was not the Spirit exclusive to Jesus, but rather the Holy Spirit. Then can the Spirit of Jesus be separated from the Holy Spirit? If Jesus is Jesus, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit, then how could They be one? The work could not be carried out if so. The Spirit within Jesus, the Spirit in heaven, and the Spirit of Jehovah are all one. It is called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, the sevenfold intensified Spirit, and the all-inclusive Spirit. The Spirit of God can carry out much work. He is able to create the world and destroy it by flooding the earth; He can redeem all mankind, and even more so, He can conquer and destroy all mankind. This work is all carried out by God Himself and cannot be done by any of the persons of God in His stead. His Spirit can be called by the name of Jehovah and Jesus, as well as the Almighty. He is the Lord, and Christ. He can also become the Son of man. He is in the heavens and also on the earth; He is above the universes and among the myriad people. He is the only Master of the heavens and earth! From the time of creation until now, this work has been carried out by the Spirit of God Himself. Be it the work in the heavens or in the flesh, all is carried out by His inherent Spirit. All creatures, whether in heaven or on earth, are in the palm of His almighty hand; all of this is the work of God Himself and can be done by no other in His stead. In the heavens, He is the Spirit but also God Himself; among people, He is flesh but remains God Himself. Though He may be called by hundreds of thousands of names, He is still Himself, and all of His work is the direct expression of His Spirit. The redemption of all mankind through His crucifixion was the direct work of His Spirit, and so too is the instruction to all nations and all lands during the last days. At all times, God can only be called the almighty one true God, the all-inclusive God Himself. These persons in God do not exist at all, much less this idea of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. There is only one God in heaven and on earth!
—The Word, Vol. 1. The Appearance and Work of God. Does the Trinity Exist?